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Good everyone. How are you? Good. I'm Good everyone. How are you? Good. I'm Dylan. Uh, thank you so much for having Dylan. Uh, thank you so much for having Dylan. Uh, thank you so much for having me here today. Uh, I'm very honored. I'm me here today. Uh, I'm very honored. I'm me here today. Uh, I'm very honored. I'm also a HubSpot customer. How good is also a HubSpot customer. How good is also a HubSpot customer. How good is that? So, we use HubSpot at the Dylan that? So, we use HubSpot at the Dylan that? So, we use HubSpot at the Dylan Orall Foundation. It's been absolutely Orall Foundation. It's been absolutely Orall Foundation. It's been absolutely unbelievable, Brace, to help us manage unbelievable, Brace, to help us manage unbelievable, Brace, to help us manage our grant recipients, our marketing, our our grant recipients, our marketing, our our grant recipients, our marketing, our content, and yeah, very cool to be up content, and yeah, very cool to be up content, and yeah, very cool to be up here talking to some like-minded uh here talking to some like-minded uh here talking to some like-minded uh people. So, thanks for having me. people. So, thanks for having me. people. So, thanks for having me. >> Look, and I said you're Dom Dollar's >> Look, and I said you're Dom Dollar's >> Look, and I said you're Dom Dollar's best mate, but Dom Dollar is your best best mate, but Dom Dollar is your best best mate, but Dom Dollar is your best mate, right? That's that's the way we mate, right? That's that's the way we mate, right? That's that's the way we should probably should look at it. Uh, should probably should look at it. Uh, should probably should look at it. Uh, mate, you're familiar with this place. I mate, you're familiar with this place. I mate, you're familiar with this place. I know that you're familiar with an know that you're familiar with an know that you're familiar with an audience. Is this your happy space audience. Is this your happy space audience. Is this your happy space sitting in front of a crowd and just sitting in front of a crowd and just sitting in front of a crowd and just being able to go wherever you want? being able to go wherever you want? being able to go wherever you want? >> Yeah. Look, I'm I'm really lucky these

>> Yeah. Look, I'm I'm really lucky these >> Yeah. Look, I'm I'm really lucky these days, mate, to to live the life that I days, mate, to to live the life that I days, mate, to to live the life that I live. But to be honest with you, I live. But to be honest with you, I live. But to be honest with you, I wasn't always like that. Uh I was born wasn't always like that. Uh I was born wasn't always like that. Uh I was born with a tumor wrapped around my spinal with a tumor wrapped around my spinal with a tumor wrapped around my spinal cord that was cut out when I was a cord that was cut out when I was a cord that was cut out when I was a couple days old. And uh I've been in a couple days old. And uh I've been in a couple days old. And uh I've been in a wheelchair my whole life. I just cannot wheelchair my whole life. I just cannot wheelchair my whole life. I just cannot tell you how much I used to hate myself. tell you how much I used to hate myself. tell you how much I used to hate myself. I hated having a disability. I was I hated having a disability. I was I hated having a disability. I was embarrassed about it. I wasn't proud of embarrassed about it. I wasn't proud of embarrassed about it. I wasn't proud of my disability. I felt like a burden on my disability. I felt like a burden on my disability. I felt like a burden on my family and my friends because I kind my family and my friends because I kind my family and my friends because I kind of believed this shame story society of believed this shame story society of believed this shame story society tells you that having a disability is tells you that having a disability is tells you that having a disability is the worst thing that can ever happen to the worst thing that can ever happen to the worst thing that can ever happen to you, you know, outside of death. And you, you know, outside of death. And you, you know, outside of death. And that's crap, right? That's not true. But

that's crap, right? That's not true. But that's crap, right? That's not true. But we we believe those things when we grow we we believe those things when we grow we we believe those things when we grow up. And you know, I'm looking at a lot up. And you know, I'm looking at a lot up. And you know, I'm looking at a lot of different faces right now. Everyone's of different faces right now. Everyone's of different faces right now. Everyone's different. And you know, you're always different. And you know, you're always different. And you know, you're always trying to find those negative things trying to find those negative things trying to find those negative things about your difference. And I used to do about your difference. And I used to do about your difference. And I used to do that growing up. And um you know I'm that growing up. And um you know I'm that growing up. And um you know I'm glad that I was able to get over that glad that I was able to get over that glad that I was able to get over that and and realize that there's a lot of and and realize that there's a lot of and and realize that there's a lot of life still to live and uh I've been you life still to live and uh I've been you life still to live and uh I've been you know given the I'm a torchbearer right know given the I'm a torchbearer right know given the I'm a torchbearer right now for the people with disability that now for the people with disability that now for the people with disability that came before me and the ones that are came before me and the ones that are came before me and the ones that are coming after me to you know talk about coming after me to you know talk about coming after me to you know talk about what it actually is like to be disabled what it actually is like to be disabled what it actually is like to be disabled but also just to get out and you know my but also just to get out and you know my but also just to get out and you know my motto in life I love doing cool stuff motto in life I love doing cool stuff motto in life I love doing cool stuff with cool people. That's what I get out with cool people. That's what I get out with cool people. That's what I get out of bed to do. Enjoy my life and and have of bed to do. Enjoy my life and and have of bed to do. Enjoy my life and and have a crack. Have the courage to have a a crack. Have the courage to have a a crack. Have the courage to have a crack. And I kind of fell into this

crack. And I kind of fell into this crack. And I kind of fell into this speaking role. You we both fell into speaking role. You we both fell into speaking role. You we both fell into these broadcasting roles. We wanted to these broadcasting roles. We wanted to these broadcasting roles. We wanted to do them, but then you know the next do them, but then you know the next do them, but then you know the next minute you and I are sitting under the minute you and I are sitting under the minute you and I are sitting under the Eiffel Tower hosting the Olympic Games Eiffel Tower hosting the Olympic Games Eiffel Tower hosting the Olympic Games together. Not not just the Parolympic together. Not not just the Parolympic together. Not not just the Parolympic games, but the Olympic Games as well. I games, but the Olympic Games as well. I games, but the Olympic Games as well. I think I was the first person in the think I was the first person in the think I was the first person in the world with a high level physical world with a high level physical world with a high level physical disability to host the Olympic Games. I disability to host the Olympic Games. I disability to host the Olympic Games. I hosted the racew walk, which was funny. hosted the racew walk, which was funny. hosted the racew walk, which was funny. Um I kept saying from one walking Um I kept saying from one walking Um I kept saying from one walking exploit to another, we're going down to exploit to another, we're going down to exploit to another, we're going down to our commentators. So mate, I wake up our commentators. So mate, I wake up our commentators. So mate, I wake up every day and and be very lucky to live every day and and be very lucky to live every day and and be very lucky to live in the life that I live. And yeah, when in the life that I live. And yeah, when in the life that I live. And yeah, when I get up to, you know, share my story I get up to, you know, share my story I get up to, you know, share my story with people who are not on their phones with people who are not on their phones with people who are not on their phones and listening and smiling, I'm pretty and listening and smiling, I'm pretty and listening and smiling, I'm pretty lucky to be able to do it. lucky to be able to do it. lucky to be able to do it. >> While we're on this little tangent, the >> While we're on this little tangent, the >> While we're on this little tangent, the cobblestones in Paris, too, [laughter] I cobblestones in Paris, too, [laughter] I cobblestones in Paris, too, [laughter] I got to say, and we had a few little got to say, and we had a few little got to say, and we had a few little ventures out and uh enjoyed ourselves uh ventures out and uh enjoyed ourselves uh ventures out and uh enjoyed ourselves uh in the city of lights. But mate, they in the city of lights. But mate, they in the city of lights. But mate, they don't make it easy for you. don't make it easy for you. don't make it easy for you. >> No. Uh whoever invented stairs and >> No. Uh whoever invented stairs and >> No. Uh whoever invented stairs and cobblestones, they can get stuffed. Um, cobblestones, they can get stuffed. Um, cobblestones, they can get stuffed. Um, it's like an episode of wheelchair it's like an episode of wheelchair it's like an episode of wheelchair survivor. I'm telling you, it's like survivor. I'm telling you, it's like survivor. I'm telling you, it's like every day you wake up and there's a new every day you wake up and there's a new every day you wake up and there's a new challenge. Uh, I was hanging on the back challenge. Uh, I was hanging on the back challenge. Uh, I was hanging on the back of your ebike. Remember that? We're of your ebike. Remember that? We're of your ebike. Remember that? We're going through through the streets. But going through through the streets. But going through through the streets. But but equally like, you know, I I I travel

but equally like, you know, I I I travel but equally like, you know, I I I travel around the world these days. Like I'm around the world these days. Like I'm around the world these days. Like I'm actually going to London, Barcelona, and actually going to London, Barcelona, and actually going to London, Barcelona, and Paris next week for for talks not too Paris next week for for talks not too Paris next week for for talks not too dissimilar to this. and to be able to dissimilar to this. and to be able to dissimilar to this. and to be able to talk about um the opportunity for people talk about um the opportunity for people talk about um the opportunity for people to be accessible and inclusive for to be accessible and inclusive for to be accessible and inclusive for people with disability, right? And you people with disability, right? And you people with disability, right? And you might be like, "What are you talking might be like, "What are you talking might be like, "What are you talking about? Like, what has this got to do about? Like, what has this got to do about? Like, what has this got to do with me?" And you're all from different with me?" And you're all from different with me?" And you're all from different organizations. You're customers of organizations. You're customers of organizations. You're customers of HubSpot, whatever it is. Does anyone HubSpot, whatever it is. Does anyone HubSpot, whatever it is. Does anyone know how many people disability there know how many people disability there know how many people disability there are in Australia, for example? 100,000, are in Australia, for example? 100,000, are in Australia, for example? 100,000, 200,000. There are 5.5 million 200,000. There are 5.5 million 200,000. There are 5.5 million Australians with a visible or Australians with a visible or Australians with a visible or non-visible disability. 1.3 billion non-visible disability. 1.3 billion non-visible disability. 1.3 billion globally, 20% of the world's population. globally, 20% of the world's population. globally, 20% of the world's population. And the reason people like organizations And the reason people like organizations And the reason people like organizations like in travel, in tech, in uh in like in travel, in tech, in uh in like in travel, in tech, in uh in anything like to be able to get out anything like to be able to get out anything like to be able to get out there, even like mainstream broadcasters there, even like mainstream broadcasters there, even like mainstream broadcasters should care about this, is not just to should care about this, is not just to should care about this, is not just to be socially equitable. It's to make a be socially equitable. It's to make a be socially equitable. It's to make a hell of a lot more money as well. And hell of a lot more money as well. And hell of a lot more money as well. And you might laugh, but what am I? A you might laugh, but what am I? A you might laugh, but what am I? A consumer just like you who wants to use consumer just like you who wants to use consumer just like you who wants to use your tech organization and programs just your tech organization and programs just your tech organization and programs just like anybody else, right? And you know, like anybody else, right? And you know, like anybody else, right? And you know, we have a buying power of $13 trillion we have a buying power of $13 trillion we have a buying power of $13 trillion globally annually. It's a pretty big globally annually. It's a pretty big globally annually. It's a pretty big number, but we often get left out of number, but we often get left out of number, but we often get left out of that economic conversation cuz people that economic conversation cuz people that economic conversation cuz people think we can't do anything. And you saw think we can't do anything. And you saw think we can't do anything. And you saw it firsthand when we traveled to these, it firsthand when we traveled to these, it firsthand when we traveled to these, you know, we travel together, we went you know, we travel together, we went you know, we travel together, we went around the world, we go to restaurants, around the world, we go to restaurants, around the world, we go to restaurants, go to bars, and they might have never go to bars, and they might have never go to bars, and they might have never seen somebody like me, right? But when seen somebody like me, right? But when seen somebody like me, right? But when they are, even if the built environment they are, even if the built environment they are, even if the built environment isn't accessible, if they are inclusive, isn't accessible, if they are inclusive, isn't accessible, if they are inclusive, listen to lived experience, ask listen to lived experience, ask listen to lived experience, ask questions, and have a crack to make it questions, and have a crack to make it questions, and have a crack to make it better, they get our business, don't better, they get our business, don't better, they get our business, don't they? Right? And it's the same with all they? Right? And it's the same with all they? Right? And it's the same with all your organizations in what you do. Not your organizations in what you do. Not your organizations in what you do. Not too dissimilar to me and my organization too dissimilar to me and my organization too dissimilar to me and my organization full of people with disability using full of people with disability using full of people with disability using HubSpot. Why? Cuz it works for us, HubSpot. Why? Cuz it works for us, HubSpot. Why? Cuz it works for us, right? It works for us. And that is a right? It works for us. And that is a right? It works for us. And that is a good business decision from HubSpot, but good business decision from HubSpot, but good business decision from HubSpot, but also and allows us to then contribute also and allows us to then contribute also and allows us to then contribute and and have a crack at being involved and and have a crack at being involved and and have a crack at being involved not just in in work, in education, in not just in in work, in education, in not just in in work, in education, in social settings, in employment, whatever social settings, in employment, whatever social settings, in employment, whatever it is. There is a leadership theme to to

it is. There is a leadership theme to to it is. There is a leadership theme to to the discussion today. And vulnerability, the discussion today. And vulnerability, the discussion today. And vulnerability, and that's one thing I mean, you you're and that's one thing I mean, you you're and that's one thing I mean, you you're showing it right now, and you've shown showing it right now, and you've shown showing it right now, and you've shown it uh for so many years. Do you see that it uh for so many years. Do you see that it uh for so many years. Do you see that and being a being able to be as open and and being a being able to be as open and and being a being able to be as open and honest as you are as some sort of honest as you are as some sort of honest as you are as some sort of superpower to to enable you to inspire superpower to to enable you to inspire superpower to to enable you to inspire everyone? everyone? everyone? >> Yeah. Look, I think the power in >> Yeah. Look, I think the power in >> Yeah. Look, I think the power in vulnerability is one of the best vulnerability is one of the best vulnerability is one of the best leadership tools that you can have. And leadership tools that you can have. And leadership tools that you can have. And you're all leaders in this room today in you're all leaders in this room today in you're all leaders in this room today in in the organizations that you work in. in the organizations that you work in. in the organizations that you work in. And gone of the days in the ' 60s, '7s, And gone of the days in the ' 60s, '7s, And gone of the days in the ' 60s, '7s, ' 80s, 90s where you have to have be ' 80s, 90s where you have to have be ' 80s, 90s where you have to have be these leaders who have all the answers these leaders who have all the answers these leaders who have all the answers cuz that doesn't make you relatable to cuz that doesn't make you relatable to cuz that doesn't make you relatable to your teams. Now I think the best leaders your teams. Now I think the best leaders your teams. Now I think the best leaders are the ones who work for people, not are the ones who work for people, not are the ones who work for people, not have people work for you, right? You have people work for you, right? You have people work for you, right? You listen to them. You listen to the listen to them. You listen to the listen to them. You listen to the experience and you open the door so they experience and you open the door so they experience and you open the door so they can thrive when they go to work and not can thrive when they go to work and not can thrive when they go to work and not just survive and get out there and be just survive and get out there and be just survive and get out there and be the best and contribute to that the best and contribute to that the best and contribute to that organization. So you can all reach your organization. So you can all reach your organization. So you can all reach your results and you know these stoic I'm not results and you know these stoic I'm not results and you know these stoic I'm not saying you always you know have to be saying you always you know have to be saying you always you know have to be super super vulnerable. Sometimes you super super vulnerable. Sometimes you super super vulnerable. Sometimes you got to be strong as leaders and I got to be strong as leaders and I got to be strong as leaders and I understand that right and I have to be understand that right and I have to be understand that right and I have to be within my organizations even in my within my organizations even in my within my organizations even in my community right when I'm when I'm community right when I'm when I'm community right when I'm when I'm advocating or whatever it is but the advocating or whatever it is but the advocating or whatever it is but the best leaders are the ones that best leaders are the ones that best leaders are the ones that vulnerable and say hey I don't know how vulnerable and say hey I don't know how vulnerable and say hey I don't know how to do this can you give me a hand or do to do this can you give me a hand or do to do this can you give me a hand or do you want to co-design and work on this you want to co-design and work on this you want to co-design and work on this together right rather than come up with together right rather than come up with together right rather than come up with all the answers an individual I learned all the answers an individual I learned all the answers an individual I learned that the hard way um I got bullied that the hard way um I got bullied that the hard way um I got bullied pretty badly about my disability uh I pretty badly about my disability uh I pretty badly about my disability uh I got left out I used to get called a got left out I used to get called a got left out I used to get called a and a every time that I and a every time that I and a every time that I turned up at school or went to a house turned up at school or went to a house turned up at school or went to a house party. And uh I hate those words. They party. And uh I hate those words. They party. And uh I hate those words. They got a real negative connotation that got a real negative connotation that got a real negative connotation that you're broken, less capable, you're broken, less capable, you're broken, less capable, unachieving. And words that used to get unachieving. And words that used to get unachieving. And words that used to get used to describe people disability back used to describe people disability back used to describe people disability back in the '7s, '8s, '90s. We might in the '7s, '8s, '90s. We might in the '7s, '8s, '90s. We might accidentally still say them today. How accidentally still say them today. How accidentally still say them today. How many drinks did you have on Saturday many drinks did you have on Saturday many drinks did you have on Saturday night? Mad or whatever it is.

night? Mad or whatever it is. night? Mad or whatever it is. And these words really hurt and I And these words really hurt and I And these words really hurt and I believe them. And for 2 years of my believe them. And for 2 years of my believe them. And for 2 years of my life, I sat at home playing video games, life, I sat at home playing video games, life, I sat at home playing video games, eating junk food, embarrassed to leave eating junk food, embarrassed to leave eating junk food, embarrassed to leave the house cuz I wasn't proud of the the house cuz I wasn't proud of the the house cuz I wasn't proud of the person that I was. And for 2 years, the person that I was. And for 2 years, the person that I was. And for 2 years, the biggest regret that I had in my life was biggest regret that I had in my life was biggest regret that I had in my life was I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell my I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell my I didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell my brother who's my best mate, my family, brother who's my best mate, my family, brother who's my best mate, my family, my schoolmates, cuz I felt like an my schoolmates, cuz I felt like an my schoolmates, cuz I felt like an embarrassment and a burden on them. But embarrassment and a burden on them. But embarrassment and a burden on them. But then once I told my brother Zach and my then once I told my brother Zach and my then once I told my brother Zach and my family after two years, they were like, family after two years, they were like, family after two years, they were like, "Mate, you're being silly. like we don't "Mate, you're being silly. like we don't "Mate, you're being silly. like we don't think that about you and just cuz two think that about you and just cuz two think that about you and just cuz two idiots say that to you, there are 10,000 idiots say that to you, there are 10,000 idiots say that to you, there are 10,000 other people that are worth your time. other people that are worth your time. other people that are worth your time. And then I always use this example when And then I always use this example when And then I always use this example when I go to the supermarket, right? I go to the supermarket, right? I go to the supermarket, right? I can't reach things. If I saw you brace I can't reach things. If I saw you brace I can't reach things. If I saw you brace and I came up to you and said, "Hey, and I came up to you and said, "Hey, and I came up to you and said, "Hey, mate, can you help me reach the milk?" mate, can you help me reach the milk?" mate, can you help me reach the milk?" Am I lesser than you for asking for Am I lesser than you for asking for Am I lesser than you for asking for help? help? help? >> I'd probably think more of you. >> I'd probably think more of you. >> I'd probably think more of you. >> Exactly. Right. I have to be vulnerable >> Exactly. Right. I have to be vulnerable >> Exactly. Right. I have to be vulnerable every day to be able to get out there every day to be able to get out there every day to be able to get out there and live the life that I want to live. and live the life that I want to live. and live the life that I want to live. And I used to think that made me less of And I used to think that made me less of And I used to think that made me less of them. But actually, it's the opposite them. But actually, it's the opposite them. But actually, it's the opposite cuz you build connection and you build cuz you build connection and you build cuz you build connection and you build rapport with people, right? And you open rapport with people, right? And you open rapport with people, right? And you open those communication channels and it those communication channels and it those communication channels and it allows people to be authentic and be allows people to be authentic and be allows people to be authentic and be their authentic self when they bring their authentic self when they bring their authentic self when they bring themselves to work. And um yeah, you themselves to work. And um yeah, you themselves to work. And um yeah, you know, in our line of work especially, know, in our line of work especially, know, in our line of work especially, mate, and and and you've seen I've seen mate, and and and you've seen I've seen mate, and and and you've seen I've seen us both do this, when something that us both do this, when something that us both do this, when something that affects us happens on TV, we lean into affects us happens on TV, we lean into affects us happens on TV, we lean into it. We don't run away from it, right? it. We don't run away from it, right? it. We don't run away from it, right? Because we're just being ourselves. And Because we're just being ourselves. And Because we're just being ourselves. And um you know, I don't want any kid, um you know, I don't want any kid, um you know, I don't want any kid, disability or not, to kind of go through disability or not, to kind of go through disability or not, to kind of go through what I went through. But gez, I'm glad I what I went through. But gez, I'm glad I what I went through. But gez, I'm glad I did because it made me a much better did because it made me a much better did because it made me a much better person. And I learned that at such a person. And I learned that at such a person. And I learned that at such a young age and I now try and bring it young age and I now try and bring it young age and I now try and bring it into, you know, absolutely everything into, you know, absolutely everything into, you know, absolutely everything that I do today. that I do today. that I do today. >> And rather than these days thinking >> And rather than these days thinking >> And rather than these days thinking about those bullies and flipping them about those bullies and flipping them about those bullies and flipping them the bird, you can just whip out a gold the bird, you can just whip out a gold the bird, you can just whip out a gold medal. You can whip out a grand slam medal. You can whip out a grand slam medal. You can whip out a grand slam track. track. track. >> I do. What about those poor bastards >> I do. What about those poor bastards >> I do. What about those poor bastards when they see me on TV [clears throat] when they see me on TV [clears throat] when they see me on TV [clears throat] or they might be, you know, they might or they might be, you know, they might or they might be, you know, they might see me talk about like, "Ah, that was see me talk about like, "Ah, that was see me talk about like, "Ah, that was me." [laughter] I was like, me." [laughter] I was like, me." [laughter] I was like, >> "Well, that's a good feeling, right? >> "Well, that's a good feeling, right? >> "Well, that's a good feeling, right? That's you win, they lose." Uh, do you That's you win, they lose." Uh, do you That's you win, they lose." Uh, do you have some show and tell off? have some show and tell off? have some show and tell off? >> I don't always do this, but the team at >> I don't always do this, but the team at >> I don't always do this, but the team at HubSpot's been absolutely unbelievable. HubSpot's been absolutely unbelievable. HubSpot's been absolutely unbelievable. So, no one You haven't seen it yet. It So, no one You haven't seen it yet. It So, no one You haven't seen it yet. It might be [laughter]

>> So, this is one of the gold medals right >> So, this is one of the gold medals right here. Um, thank you. [applause] >> Um, I'll tell you one quick story. This >> Um, I'll tell you one quick story. This was for the wheelchair basketball. So, I was for the wheelchair basketball. So, I was for the wheelchair basketball. So, I was 17 years old at the Beijing was 17 years old at the Beijing was 17 years old at the Beijing Parolympic Games when I won that. Um, Parolympic Games when I won that. Um, Parolympic Games when I won that. Um, and to sit on top of that podium with 12 and to sit on top of that podium with 12 and to sit on top of that podium with 12 of my best mates, guys have been through of my best mates, guys have been through of my best mates, guys have been through hell and back in order to get there. Uh, hell and back in order to get there. Uh, hell and back in order to get there. Uh, my captain, a guy called Brad Ness, he my captain, a guy called Brad Ness, he my captain, a guy called Brad Ness, he was hopeful of getting drafted in the was hopeful of getting drafted in the was hopeful of getting drafted in the AFL, the Australian Football League, if AFL, the Australian Football League, if AFL, the Australian Football League, if you're not from Australia back in the ' you're not from Australia back in the ' you're not from Australia back in the ' 90s, and he was working over in the 90s, and he was working over in the 90s, and he was working over in the docks in Western Australia to earn a docks in Western Australia to earn a docks in Western Australia to earn a little bit of money before he made the little bit of money before he made the little bit of money before he made the move to Melbourne. And one day, one of move to Melbourne. And one day, one of move to Melbourne. And one day, one of his mates accidentally, or as a joke, his mates accidentally, or as a joke, his mates accidentally, or as a joke, tied one of the boat ropes around Brad's tied one of the boat ropes around Brad's tied one of the boat ropes around Brad's leg. The captain of the boat thought leg. The captain of the boat thought leg. The captain of the boat thought someone said go. The boat took off. The someone said go. The boat took off. The someone said go. The boat took off. The rope tightened around his leg and it rope tightened around his leg and it rope tightened around his leg and it sliced his leg straight off that day. sliced his leg straight off that day. sliced his leg straight off that day. Obviously never to play football again Obviously never to play football again Obviously never to play football again uh or walk without a prosthetic. uh or walk without a prosthetic. uh or walk without a prosthetic. Uh another teammate was out celebrating Uh another teammate was out celebrating Uh another teammate was out celebrating a a rugby final in country Queensland. a a rugby final in country Queensland. a a rugby final in country Queensland. It was the first premiership his town It was the first premiership his town It was the first premiership his town had won in 20 years. He was so keen to had won in 20 years. He was so keen to had won in 20 years. He was so keen to get back to the pub to get uh you know get back to the pub to get uh you know get back to the pub to get uh you know celebrate with his friends and family. celebrate with his friends and family. celebrate with his friends and family. He got in a car with his fianceé and his He got in a car with his fianceé and his He got in a car with his fianceé and his best mate. His best mate was also a bit best mate. His best mate was also a bit best mate. His best mate was also a bit excited driving a bit fast. Uh lost excited driving a bit fast. Uh lost excited driving a bit fast. Uh lost control of that car and crashed and my control of that car and crashed and my control of that car and crashed and my teammate lost his fiance and his best teammate lost his fiance and his best teammate lost his fiance and his best mate that day and he was after mate that day and he was after mate that day and he was after paraplegic never to walk a step again in paraplegic never to walk a step again in paraplegic never to walk a step again in his life at 23 years old. And at one his life at 23 years old. And at one his life at 23 years old. And at one point in all of our lives, we'd all point in all of our lives, we'd all point in all of our lives, we'd all given up hope. I know I had. I honestly given up hope. I know I had. I honestly given up hope. I know I had. I honestly did not think my life was going to did not think my life was going to did not think my life was going to amount to anything. I really didn't. I amount to anything. I really didn't. I amount to anything. I really didn't. I didn't think I'd be sitting here today didn't think I'd be sitting here today didn't think I'd be sitting here today with you all potentially sitting here at with you all potentially sitting here at with you all potentially sitting here at all if I'm honest. And to sit on top of all if I'm honest. And to sit on top of all if I'm honest. And to sit on top of that podium side by side watching that that podium side by side watching that that podium side by side watching that flag go up, tears running down our It flag go up, tears running down our It flag go up, tears running down our It gets me going now. Tears running down gets me going now. Tears running down gets me going now. Tears running down our face just so bloody proud of one our face just so bloody proud of one our face just so bloody proud of one another. What we just achieved. That was another. What we just achieved. That was another. What we just achieved. That was one of the best moments of my life. And one of the best moments of my life. And one of the best moments of my life. And I got to experience that when I was I got to experience that when I was I got to experience that when I was still a kid. And um 99.99% of the still a kid. And um 99.99% of the still a kid. And um 99.99% of the population that's ever lived on Earth population that's ever lived on Earth population that's ever lived on Earth has no idea what it's like to win a gold has no idea what it's like to win a gold has no idea what it's like to win a gold medal for their country. And I'm medal for their country. And I'm medal for their country. And I'm extremely honored and lucky to know extremely honored and lucky to know extremely honored and lucky to know those people, mate. Which is pretty those people, mate. Which is pretty those people, mate. Which is pretty cool. Um so this is the one from cool. Um so this is the one from cool. Um so this is the one from Beijing. Got another one. Hang on a sec. Beijing. Got another one. Hang on a sec. Beijing. Got another one. Hang on a sec. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] >> This is this is one of the tennis ones. >> This is this is one of the tennis ones. >> This is this is one of the tennis ones. Can everyone hear this? Can everyone hear this? Can everyone hear this? >> What? >> What? >> What? >> For the first time ever, the medals had

>> For the first time ever, the medals had >> For the first time ever, the medals had ball bearings in them. 28 in a gold, 22 ball bearings in them. 28 in a gold, 22 ball bearings in them. 28 in a gold, 22 in a silver, 16 in a bronze. in a silver, 16 in a bronze. in a silver, 16 in a bronze. Parolympics. Think about it. They all Parolympics. Think about it. They all Parolympics. Think about it. They all make a different sound for make a different sound for make a different sound for >> anyone. Clever the blind athletes. >> anyone. Clever the blind athletes. >> anyone. Clever the blind athletes. >> Gold, silver, bronze. >> Gold, silver, bronze. >> Gold, silver, bronze. >> Yeah. So, the you could see the blind >> Yeah. So, the you could see the blind >> Yeah. So, the you could see the blind athletes on the on the podium. They were athletes on the on the podium. They were athletes on the on the podium. They were like, "Yep, yep. Mine sounds better than like, "Yep, yep. Mine sounds better than like, "Yep, yep. Mine sounds better than yours." Just to make sure that yours." Just to make sure that yours." Just to make sure that [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] it's pretty good. We got 17 minutes on it's pretty good. We got 17 minutes on it's pretty good. We got 17 minutes on the clock. Anyone want to have a look? the clock. Anyone want to have a look? the clock. Anyone want to have a look? Do you want to have a look? Do you want to have a look? Do you want to have a look? >> Do you want to pass them around? Couple >> Do you want to pass them around? Couple >> Do you want to pass them around? Couple of rules. One, I know they're heavy. of rules. One, I know they're heavy. of rules. One, I know they're heavy. Don't tell me they're heavy. Right. Some Don't tell me they're heavy. Right. Some Don't tell me they're heavy. Right. Some smart ass black got us heavy. smart ass black got us heavy. smart ass black got us heavy. >> I tell you what, they're ratty, mate. >> I tell you what, they're ratty, mate. >> I tell you what, they're ratty, mate. They've done the rounds. They've done the rounds. They've done the rounds. >> There we go. One on each side will pass >> There we go. One on each side will pass >> There we go. One on each side will pass me. me. me. >> Also, if you try and steal it, I will >> Also, if you try and steal it, I will >> Also, if you try and steal it, I will find you [laughter] find you [laughter] find you [laughter] >> and I'll run you over my car. Okay, D. >> and I'll run you over my car. Okay, D. >> and I'll run you over my car. Okay, D. >> Now, I want to a question I do want to >> Now, I want to a question I do want to >> Now, I want to a question I do want to ask you about today. Yeah. You talk ask you about today. Yeah. You talk ask you about today. Yeah. You talk about your your career as an athlete, a about your your career as an athlete, a about your your career as an athlete, a basketballer, which there'll be a lot in basketballer, which there'll be a lot in basketballer, which there'll be a lot in this room that didn't realize uh that this room that didn't realize uh that this room that didn't realize uh that [snorts] you did wheelchair basketball. [snorts] you did wheelchair basketball. [snorts] you did wheelchair basketball. Uh the tennis playing obviously, which Uh the tennis playing obviously, which Uh the tennis playing obviously, which is, you know, where you really put your is, you know, where you really put your is, you know, where you really put your name up in lights. And then life beyond name up in lights. And then life beyond name up in lights. And then life beyond tennis. You sort of did the transition

tennis. You sort of did the transition tennis. You sort of did the transition into broadcasting along the way. And you into broadcasting along the way. And you into broadcasting along the way. And you know in the business world no matter know in the business world no matter know in the business world no matter where you are reinventing yourself it is where you are reinventing yourself it is where you are reinventing yourself it is something that eventually you have to do something that eventually you have to do something that eventually you have to do at some stage um and there's probably a at some stage um and there's probably a at some stage um and there's probably a the whole world's doing it at the moment the whole world's doing it at the moment the whole world's doing it at the moment with the AI movement as well. Uh do you with the AI movement as well. Uh do you with the AI movement as well. Uh do you remember any key points uh through remember any key points uh through remember any key points uh through throughout your life uh where you you throughout your life uh where you you throughout your life uh where you you actually had to do that? Are you doing actually had to do that? Are you doing actually had to do that? Are you doing it now? it now? it now? >> Yeah, I do it all the time. You know >> Yeah, I do it all the time. You know >> Yeah, I do it all the time. You know going back to my motto which is you know going back to my motto which is you know going back to my motto which is you know it's actually doing cool with cool it's actually doing cool with cool it's actually doing cool with cool people not cool stuff is what I normally people not cool stuff is what I normally people not cool stuff is what I normally would say it. You know, I always try and would say it. You know, I always try and would say it. You know, I always try and find ways to innovate, change find ways to innovate, change find ways to innovate, change perceptions that align with my purpose, perceptions that align with my purpose, perceptions that align with my purpose, right? Even though I'm constantly, you right? Even though I'm constantly, you right? Even though I'm constantly, you know, re-evaluating and and and know, re-evaluating and and and know, re-evaluating and and and relaunching what I'm doing, it always relaunching what I'm doing, it always relaunching what I'm doing, it always aligns to my purpose. My purpose is to aligns to my purpose. My purpose is to aligns to my purpose. My purpose is to change perceptions so all people with change perceptions so all people with change perceptions so all people with disability all around the world can get disability all around the world can get disability all around the world can get out and live the lives that I deserve to out and live the lives that I deserve to out and live the lives that I deserve to live. They deserve to live. Four years live. They deserve to live. Four years live. They deserve to live. Four years ago, 3 years ago, I retired from tennis. ago, 3 years ago, I retired from tennis. ago, 3 years ago, I retired from tennis. The reason I did is not because I hated The reason I did is not because I hated The reason I did is not because I hated tennis. I loved it. But I said to tennis. I loved it. But I said to tennis. I loved it. But I said to myself, do I need to win one more myself, do I need to win one more myself, do I need to win one more Australian Open to live out that Australian Open to live out that Australian Open to live out that purpose? And I was like, not really. purpose? And I was like, not really. purpose? And I was like, not really. Right? And now your purpose might not be Right? And now your purpose might not be Right? And now your purpose might not be change the world for a diverse group of change the world for a diverse group of change the world for a diverse group of people. It might be to be like provide people. It might be to be like provide people. It might be to be like provide the best life I can for my kids. That the best life I can for my kids. That the best life I can for my kids. That might be your purpose, right? Or it might be your purpose, right? Or it might be your purpose, right? Or it might be like to uplift people at work might be like to uplift people at work might be like to uplift people at work so we can achieve. That might be your so we can achieve. That might be your so we can achieve. That might be your purpose. But it really helps your purpose. But it really helps your purpose. But it really helps your decision-m process right now. Is this decision-m process right now. Is this decision-m process right now. Is this aligning with my purpose? I think it is. aligning with my purpose? I think it is. aligning with my purpose? I think it is. There's a thousand people in this room There's a thousand people in this room There's a thousand people in this room from a thousand different organizations from a thousand different organizations from a thousand different organizations that I can talk about what's important that I can talk about what's important that I can talk about what's important to me. That aligns with my purpose, to me. That aligns with my purpose, to me. That aligns with my purpose, right? That's why I said yesterday and right? That's why I said yesterday and right? That's why I said yesterday and getting to do it one of your best mates, getting to do it one of your best mates, getting to do it one of your best mates, right? A cool person doing some cool right? A cool person doing some cool right? A cool person doing some cool stuff, right? So, I always think this, stuff, right? So, I always think this, stuff, right? So, I always think this, but in saying that,

but in saying that, but in saying that, it can be scary when you want to try new it can be scary when you want to try new it can be scary when you want to try new things. I got an opportunity to things. I got an opportunity to things. I got an opportunity to broadcast on a on a different network to broadcast on a on a different network to broadcast on a on a different network to where we work now back when they had the where we work now back when they had the where we work now back when they had the tennis. And I remember it was like my tennis. And I remember it was like my tennis. And I remember it was like my first big moment, right? And I'm like, I first big moment, right? And I'm like, I first big moment, right? And I'm like, I can't stuff this up. And I it's when I can't stuff this up. And I it's when I can't stuff this up. And I it's when I really first learned about the power in really first learned about the power in really first learned about the power in authenticity, in being yourself, right? authenticity, in being yourself, right? authenticity, in being yourself, right? Which is the scariest thing to do. I Which is the scariest thing to do. I Which is the scariest thing to do. I never saw anybody like me on TV. When I never saw anybody like me on TV. When I never saw anybody like me on TV. When I did, it was a road safety ad where did, it was a road safety ad where did, it was a road safety ad where someone drink drives, has a car someone drink drives, has a car someone drink drives, has a car accident. What's the next scene? Someone accident. What's the next scene? Someone accident. What's the next scene? Someone like me in tears because their life's like me in tears because their life's like me in tears because their life's over, deterring you from speeding or over, deterring you from speeding or over, deterring you from speeding or drink driving. That's all I ever saw. I drink driving. That's all I ever saw. I drink driving. That's all I ever saw. I saw people like you, Brace. So when I saw people like you, Brace. So when I saw people like you, Brace. So when I got an opportunity to broadcast, I got an opportunity to broadcast, I got an opportunity to broadcast, I thought I had to be like Brace. thought I had to be like Brace. thought I had to be like Brace. genuinely and I'm like I have to be like genuinely and I'm like I have to be like genuinely and I'm like I have to be like less disabled somehow. Like I know it less disabled somehow. Like I know it less disabled somehow. Like I know it sounds weird but that's what I thought sounds weird but that's what I thought sounds weird but that's what I thought and I was so bad because I wasn't being and I was so bad because I wasn't being and I was so bad because I wasn't being myself. And then I remember I got an myself. And then I remember I got an myself. And then I remember I got an opportunity to interview this young opportunity to interview this young opportunity to interview this young tennis player called Raphael Nadal. He's tennis player called Raphael Nadal. He's tennis player called Raphael Nadal. He's new. Um new. Um new. Um but it was during the match oncourt but it was during the match oncourt but it was during the match oncourt interview. I had to go up and interview interview. I had to go up and interview interview. I had to go up and interview him and the broadcaster was petrified him and the broadcaster was petrified him and the broadcaster was petrified because I was sitting down and he was because I was sitting down and he was because I was sitting down and he was going to be standing up. Like, how's going to be standing up. Like, how's going to be standing up. Like, how's that going to work, right? And me being that going to work, right? And me being that going to work, right? And me being me, I thought, I've got to be myself me, I thought, I've got to be myself me, I thought, I've got to be myself here. I just said, I'm just going to put here. I just said, I'm just going to put here. I just said, I'm just going to put a bloody microphone to his mouth like a bloody microphone to his mouth like a bloody microphone to his mouth like everybody else. That's what I said to everybody else. That's what I said to everybody else. That's what I said to the head of this network. the head of this network. the head of this network. [laughter] [laughter] [laughter] And they were like, I just said in such And they were like, I just said in such And they were like, I just said in such a normalizing way, they were like, a normalizing way, they were like, a normalizing way, they were like, "Okay, we'll give you a crack." That "Okay, we'll give you a crack." That "Okay, we'll give you a crack." That interview was watched by 150 million interview was watched by 150 million interview was watched by 150 million people around the world and that image people around the world and that image people around the world and that image was broadcast back when X or Twitter was was broadcast back when X or Twitter was was broadcast back when X or Twitter was the one going like how cool is this a the one going like how cool is this a the one going like how cool is this a wheelchair tennis player Dylan Or wheelchair tennis player Dylan Or wheelchair tennis player Dylan Or interviewing Rafael Nadal powerful. interviewing Rafael Nadal powerful. interviewing Rafael Nadal powerful. Yeah. And that's when I was like wow Yeah. And that's when I was like wow Yeah. And that's when I was like wow I've just got to actually be me. I've just got to actually be me. I've just got to actually be me. [clears throat] Be authentically me. But [clears throat] Be authentically me. But [clears throat] Be authentically me. But it took me I just turned 35 it took me I just turned 35 it took me I just turned 35 washed up. Um washed up. Um washed up. Um and I don't think I've ever told you and I don't think I've ever told you and I don't think I've ever told you this brace. It took me 29 years to fully this brace. It took me 29 years to fully this brace. It took me 29 years to fully feel worthy of love and worthy of my feel worthy of love and worthy of my feel worthy of love and worthy of my disability even though I've been disability even though I've been disability even though I've been broadcasting for a decade on Triple J broadcasting for a decade on Triple J broadcasting for a decade on Triple J and you know all I was just pretending and you know all I was just pretending and you know all I was just pretending genuinely. genuinely. genuinely. >> Was there a moment is that the moment

>> Was there a moment is that the moment >> Was there a moment is that the moment you talk about 29 years so obviously you talk about 29 years so obviously you talk about 29 years so obviously there's a that that turning point for there's a that that turning point for there's a that that turning point for >> you know what I did? I worked hard on >> you know what I did? I worked hard on >> you know what I did? I worked hard on it. I really wish I could say you just it. I really wish I could say you just it. I really wish I could say you just wake up one day, but I did a lot of work wake up one day, but I did a lot of work wake up one day, but I did a lot of work on it, right? And [snorts] I'm not on it, right? And [snorts] I'm not on it, right? And [snorts] I'm not saying you got to go see a psychologist saying you got to go see a psychologist saying you got to go see a psychologist or a mindset coach. There are many ways or a mindset coach. There are many ways or a mindset coach. There are many ways that you can work on it. You can write that you can work on it. You can write that you can work on it. You can write something down right now that I said something down right now that I said something down right now that I said that resonates with you and do some that resonates with you and do some that resonates with you and do some research. You can use AI. You can talk research. You can use AI. You can talk research. You can use AI. You can talk to a friend. You can listen to a to a friend. You can listen to a to a friend. You can listen to a podcast. But I asked myself genuinely, podcast. But I asked myself genuinely, podcast. But I asked myself genuinely, who am I and what do I want? But when I who am I and what do I want? But when I who am I and what do I want? But when I ask myself, who am I? That's a scary

ask myself, who am I? That's a scary ask myself, who am I? That's a scary question, right? Because you got to go, question, right? Because you got to go, question, right? Because you got to go, you know what? I do have things that I'm you know what? I do have things that I'm you know what? I do have things that I'm still self-conscious about, like, you still self-conscious about, like, you still self-conscious about, like, you know, dating and all these things that I know, dating and all these things that I know, dating and all these things that I really struggled with, but it's who I really struggled with, but it's who I really struggled with, but it's who I am. And I had to go, that's okay. And if am. And I had to go, that's okay. And if am. And I had to go, that's okay. And if it's not right for someone else, you it's not right for someone else, you it's not right for someone else, you know, that hurts, but you can find know, that hurts, but you can find know, that hurts, but you can find somewhere else. Or if same for all of somewhere else. Or if same for all of somewhere else. Or if same for all of you, if you work at a place and you you, if you work at a place and you you, if you work at a place and you can't feel like you you can be your can't feel like you you can be your can't feel like you you can be your authentic self at work, go somewhere authentic self at work, go somewhere authentic self at work, go somewhere else. Find your tribe and your community else. Find your tribe and your community else. Find your tribe and your community where you can be yourself, right? where you can be yourself, right? where you can be yourself, right? Because once that weight is off your Because once that weight is off your Because once that weight is off your shoulders, my life changed so much. And shoulders, my life changed so much. And shoulders, my life changed so much. And the number one way it changed was I the number one way it changed was I the number one way it changed was I became a better person. I became a became a better person. I became a became a better person. I became a better person. And I didn't worry about

better person. And I didn't worry about better person. And I didn't worry about exttrinsic motivators like medals and exttrinsic motivators like medals and exttrinsic motivators like medals and loies. I started worrying about loies. I started worrying about loies. I started worrying about intrinsic motivators like supporting intrinsic motivators like supporting intrinsic motivators like supporting people that I love, being there for people that I love, being there for people that I love, being there for them, starting the Dylan Orcott them, starting the Dylan Orcott them, starting the Dylan Orcott Foundation where we support young Foundation where we support young Foundation where we support young Australians with disability and you know Australians with disability and you know Australians with disability and you know it really really deeply changed my life it really really deeply changed my life it really really deeply changed my life and but I put a lot of work into that and but I put a lot of work into that and but I put a lot of work into that and I still do. I still see a and I still do. I still see a and I still do. I still see a psychologist and when you say that psychologist and when you say that psychologist and when you say that people go oh are you okay? It's like no people go oh are you okay? It's like no people go oh are you okay? It's like no that's what we all love crapping on that's what we all love crapping on that's what we all love crapping on about going to the gym and we do. How about going to the gym and we do. How about going to the gym and we do. How much do you see about gym workouts much do you see about gym workouts much do you see about gym workouts online? And then as soon as you say, online? And then as soon as you say, online? And then as soon as you say, "I'm actually seeing someone to work on "I'm actually seeing someone to work on "I'm actually seeing someone to work on my, you know, mental strength or mental my, you know, mental strength or mental my, you know, mental strength or mental health, whatever you want to call, health, whatever you want to call, health, whatever you want to call, everyone goes, oo you're right."

everyone goes, oo you're right." everyone goes, oo you're right." It's like, "No, I just want to kick ass It's like, "No, I just want to kick ass It's like, "No, I just want to kick ass in life and enjoy it, right?" It's a in life and enjoy it, right?" It's a in life and enjoy it, right?" It's a different way to think about it, isn't different way to think about it, isn't different way to think about it, isn't it? And working on that mental muscle it? And working on that mental muscle it? And working on that mental muscle has really helped me. And even AI tools, has really helped me. And even AI tools, has really helped me. And even AI tools, there's so many tools out there now there's so many tools out there now there's so many tools out there now where you can do these kinds of things. where you can do these kinds of things. where you can do these kinds of things. And and then equally mate, like you And and then equally mate, like you And and then equally mate, like you know, did I remember watching the know, did I remember watching the know, did I remember watching the Olympic Games, you and I sitting next to Olympic Games, you and I sitting next to Olympic Games, you and I sitting next to each other broadcasting. What the hell? each other broadcasting. What the hell? each other broadcasting. What the hell? Like never thought that would have Like never thought that would have Like never thought that would have happened. I'm acting these days. Like happened. I'm acting these days. Like happened. I'm acting these days. Like I'm getting flown to LA and having I'm getting flown to LA and having I'm getting flown to LA and having auditions with Hollywood superstars and auditions with Hollywood superstars and auditions with Hollywood superstars and I'm like, what is happening? Right? But I'm like, what is happening? Right? But I'm like, what is happening? Right? But but equally, I've been putting the work but equally, I've been putting the work but equally, I've been putting the work in. I always I wish, you know, I think in. I always I wish, you know, I think in. I always I wish, you know, I think the biggest traits, I've already said the biggest traits, I've already said the biggest traits, I've already said two of them, is that authenticity and two of them, is that authenticity and two of them, is that authenticity and vulnerability, but the other two is is vulnerability, but the other two is is vulnerability, but the other two is is the courage to have a crack. the courage the courage to have a crack. the courage the courage to have a crack. the courage to get started, right? I've always to get started, right? I've always to get started, right? I've always wanted to be an actor. Everyone's like, wanted to be an actor. Everyone's like, wanted to be an actor. Everyone's like, "What are you talking about?" I went to "What are you talking about?" I went to "What are you talking about?" I went to acting school. I put the work in. Now acting school. I put the work in. Now acting school. I put the work in. Now I'm writing a TV show with like a big I'm writing a TV show with like a big I'm writing a TV show with like a big broadcaster in America, which I can't broadcaster in America, which I can't broadcaster in America, which I can't tell you about yet. Uh I kind of just tell you about yet. Uh I kind of just tell you about yet. Uh I kind of just did. Um did. Um did. Um >> do you have to wait for Entertainment >> do you have to wait for Entertainment >> do you have to wait for Entertainment Tonight? Tonight? Tonight? >> We got to wait for the scoop. Uh I'm not >> We got to wait for the scoop. Uh I'm not >> We got to wait for the scoop. Uh I'm not giving you the scoop now, Brace. Uh I giving you the scoop now, Brace. Uh I giving you the scoop now, Brace. Uh I want to make a global documentary around want to make a global documentary around want to make a global documentary around the world based on travel and people the world based on travel and people the world based on travel and people with disability kind of like Anthony with disability kind of like Anthony with disability kind of like Anthony Bourdain and Louis Thuru. How do I start Bourdain and Louis Thuru. How do I start Bourdain and Louis Thuru. How do I start that? I started it, right? But then that? I started it, right? But then that? I started it, right? But then equally, if you want to do something, equally, if you want to do something, equally, if you want to do something, there aren't really any shortcuts as there aren't really any shortcuts as there aren't really any shortcuts as well. You got to put the work in and try well. You got to put the work in and try well. You got to put the work in and try and become the best you can at that as and become the best you can at that as and become the best you can at that as well. I reckon 17-year-old Dylan Orcot well. I reckon 17-year-old Dylan Orcot well. I reckon 17-year-old Dylan Orcot would be pretty impressed with would be pretty impressed with would be pretty impressed with 35-year-old washed up Dylan Orcot. 35-year-old washed up Dylan Orcot. 35-year-old washed up Dylan Orcot. >> He'd probably be like, "Shut up, >> He'd probably be like, "Shut up, >> He'd probably be like, "Shut up, dickhead." [laughter] dickhead." [laughter] dickhead." [laughter] Uh, look, everyone, you know, in in some Uh, look, everyone, you know, in in some Uh, look, everyone, you know, in in some way, shape, or form, uh, is going to way, shape, or form, uh, is going to way, shape, or form, uh, is going to look at some stage in life, whether it's look at some stage in life, whether it's look at some stage in life, whether it's at work or or not, to a mentor, to at work or or not, to a mentor, to at work or or not, to a mentor, to someone to to look up to. Have Have you someone to to look up to. Have Have you someone to to look up to. Have Have you had a few throughout your life that have had a few throughout your life that have had a few throughout your life that have had a huge influence on you? had a huge influence on you? had a huge influence on you? >> Yeah, look, I you know, my brother Zach, >> Yeah, look, I you know, my brother Zach, >> Yeah, look, I you know, my brother Zach, first and foremost, um, one of my first and foremost, um, one of my first and foremost, um, one of my favorite stories is, you know, we're favorite stories is, you know, we're favorite stories is, you know, we're best mates these days, but safe to say best mates these days, but safe to say best mates these days, but safe to say we weren't always. Uh, we had cable TV, we weren't always. Uh, we had cable TV, we weren't always. Uh, we had cable TV, Fox teller from Australia, and we used Fox teller from Australia, and we used Fox teller from Australia, and we used to always fight over the TV remote, and to always fight over the TV remote, and to always fight over the TV remote, and whenever Zach would get up to go to the whenever Zach would get up to go to the whenever Zach would get up to go to the bathroom, I'd crawl over and get the bathroom, I'd crawl over and get the bathroom, I'd crawl over and get the control. Zach's quite smart. He's 6'5 control. Zach's quite smart. He's 6'5 control. Zach's quite smart. He's 6'5 these days. So whenever he got to go to these days. So whenever he got to go to these days. So whenever he got to go to the bathroom, he'd walk into the kitchen the bathroom, he'd walk into the kitchen the bathroom, he'd walk into the kitchen and put the TV remote on top of the and put the TV remote on top of the and put the TV remote on top of the fridge. fridge. fridge. What a jerk. Um, What a jerk. Um, What a jerk. Um, but but but my brother my brother my brother never cared for one day that I was in a never cared for one day that I was in a never cared for one day that I was in a wheelchair, right? He loved me for who I wheelchair, right? He loved me for who I wheelchair, right? He loved me for who I was and treated me like I was anybody was and treated me like I was anybody was and treated me like I was anybody else. And I learned that off him. And else. And I learned that off him. And else. And I learned that off him. And there's times when I forget that still, there's times when I forget that still, there's times when I forget that still, right? when I have bad days or something right? when I have bad days or something right? when I have bad days or something happens to me where I get discriminated happens to me where I get discriminated happens to me where I get discriminated against, I'm like, "Ah, this sucks, against, I'm like, "Ah, this sucks, against, I'm like, "Ah, this sucks, actually." And I want to have a kid one actually." And I want to have a kid one actually." And I want to have a kid one day and he's going to have to teach him day and he's going to have to teach him day and he's going to have to teach him how to kick a football. how to kick a football. how to kick a football. That sucks. I'm not lying about that. I That sucks. I'm not lying about that. I That sucks. I'm not lying about that. I go to the beach and I sit 50 m on the go to the beach and I sit 50 m on the go to the beach and I sit 50 m on the path while you all walk on the sand and path while you all walk on the sand and path while you all walk on the sand and jump in the water. Something I've never jump in the water. Something I've never jump in the water. Something I've never been able to do. Nor will I. I'd be been able to do. Nor will I. I'd be been able to do. Nor will I. I'd be lying to say if that doesn't suck as lying to say if that doesn't suck as lying to say if that doesn't suck as well. But every one thing that I can't well. But every one thing that I can't well. But every one thing that I can't do, there are 10,000 other things that I do, there are 10,000 other things that I do, there are 10,000 other things that I can do. And I learned from him, right, can do. And I learned from him, right, can do. And I learned from him, right, that as long as you've got good people that as long as you've got good people that as long as you've got good people around you, that back you can do around you, that back you can do around you, that back you can do whatever you whatever you see, you know, whatever you whatever you see, you know, whatever you whatever you see, you know, you want to do in your life. And outside you want to do in your life. And outside you want to do in your life. And outside of that, I really think I'm a sponge of of that, I really think I'm a sponge of of that, I really think I'm a sponge of little things of lots of people rather little things of lots of people rather little things of lots of people rather than have one mentor. I'm going to than have one mentor. I'm going to than have one mentor. I'm going to embarrass you. Um, but James is embarrass you. Um, but James is embarrass you. Um, but James is unbelievable at his job. Unbelievable, unbelievable at his job. Unbelievable, unbelievable at his job. Unbelievable, right? And I used to see how he would right? And I used to see how he would right? And I used to see how he would manage a broadcast and be like, I want manage a broadcast and be like, I want manage a broadcast and be like, I want to be like that. And then what did I do, to be like that. And then what did I do, to be like that. And then what did I do, James? I came up and asked you, right? I James? I came up and asked you, right? I James? I came up and asked you, right? I asked you for advice and we became asked you for advice and we became asked you for advice and we became friends. And the reason you're good in friends. And the reason you're good in friends. And the reason you're good in our industry, not everyone always says our industry, not everyone always says our industry, not everyone always says yes to that because they want the job, yes to that because they want the job, yes to that because they want the job, right? And you were like, mate, 100%. right? And you were like, mate, 100%. right? And you were like, mate, 100%. Right? And that's how we build a Right? And that's how we build a Right? And that's how we build a friendship first and foremost. But friendship first and foremost. But friendship first and foremost. But that's how we can perform to up to 10 that's how we can perform to up to 10 that's how we can perform to up to 10 million people every year at the million people every year at the million people every year at the Australian Open or the or when we Australian Open or the or when we Australian Open or the or when we broadcast the Olympic Games, right? And broadcast the Olympic Games, right? And broadcast the Olympic Games, right? And I'm never afraid to go up and ask I'm never afraid to go up and ask I'm never afraid to go up and ask someone, can hey, I love how you do someone, can hey, I love how you do someone, can hey, I love how you do that. Do you mind teaching me, educating that. Do you mind teaching me, educating that. Do you mind teaching me, educating me so I can just be better at my job? me so I can just be better at my job? me so I can just be better at my job? But you're actually not just better at But you're actually not just better at But you're actually not just better at your job, you become better people in your job, you become better people in your job, you become better people in that. And you build friendships and that. And you build friendships and that. And you build friendships and things like that. And um I think things like that. And um I think things like that. And um I think you know for me I'm so lucky that I've you know for me I'm so lucky that I've you know for me I'm so lucky that I've got a network now of people that I care got a network now of people that I care got a network now of people that I care about but they care about me too. And about but they care about me too. And about but they care about me too. And you know I always say we won Wimbledon. you know I always say we won Wimbledon. you know I always say we won Wimbledon. We won Australian of the year. And We won Australian of the year. And We won Australian of the year. And everyone says no you did. I said well everyone says no you did. I said well everyone says no you did. I said well I'm nothing without my team, my coach, I'm nothing without my team, my coach, I'm nothing without my team, my coach, the people that work in my foundation, the people that work in my foundation, the people that work in my foundation, my brother. It sounds weird when you say my brother. It sounds weird when you say my brother. It sounds weird when you say but like I'm like we were world number but like I'm like we were world number but like I'm like we were world number one. My coach left his kids for 10 one. My coach left his kids for 10 one. My coach left his kids for 10 months during co so we could win the months during co so we could win the months during co so we could win the golden slam. What's harder that or golden slam. What's harder that or golden slam. What's harder that or hitting a serve at Wimbledon? I would hitting a serve at Wimbledon? I would hitting a serve at Wimbledon? I would say the other thing is his not seeing say the other thing is his not seeing say the other thing is his not seeing his kids is harder. I got the easy job, his kids is harder. I got the easy job, his kids is harder. I got the easy job, right? And I think that when I figured right? And I think that when I figured right? And I think that when I figured out that language, but also really out that language, but also really out that language, but also really started believing it and making started believing it and making started believing it and making everything about, you know, we and team everything about, you know, we and team everything about, you know, we and team and co-designing and doing things and co-designing and doing things and co-designing and doing things together, it opened a lot of doors for together, it opened a lot of doors for together, it opened a lot of doors for me. me. me. >> Takes a village. Um, one thing I love, >> Takes a village. Um, one thing I love, >> Takes a village. Um, one thing I love, and thank you for the rap, but it's And and thank you for the rap, but it's And and thank you for the rap, but it's And why wouldn't you want to be mates and why wouldn't you want to be mates and why wouldn't you want to be mates and colleagues with a bloke like this is is colleagues with a bloke like this is is colleagues with a bloke like this is is watching our former athletes in our wide watching our former athletes in our wide watching our former athletes in our wide water sports productions, uh, come in water sports productions, uh, come in water sports productions, uh, come in and take on the roll of broadcasting. and take on the roll of broadcasting. and take on the roll of broadcasting. And that competitive spirit never And that competitive spirit never And that competitive spirit never leaves. And if they muff a line, they'll leaves. And if they muff a line, they'll leaves. And if they muff a line, they'll spend 2 minutes just kicking themselves spend 2 minutes just kicking themselves spend 2 minutes just kicking themselves about it and then tell the producer, "Go about it and then tell the producer, "Go about it and then tell the producer, "Go and put me in another spot now and make and put me in another spot now and make and put me in another spot now and make me do something similar again so I can me do something similar again so I can me do something similar again so I can show you I can do it." Do you find show you I can do it." Do you find show you I can do it." Do you find yourself like that being a former yourself like that being a former yourself like that being a former athlete now in a broadcasting space? athlete now in a broadcasting space? athlete now in a broadcasting space? >> Great question. Um, I've never been >> Great question. Um, I've never been >> Great question. Um, I've never been asked that. Uh, I was never competitive asked that. Uh, I was never competitive asked that. Uh, I was never competitive with my opponents on the tennis court. I with my opponents on the tennis court. I with my opponents on the tennis court. I personally personally personally liked them all, but I was really liked them all, but I was really liked them all, but I was really competitive with myself that I wanted to competitive with myself that I wanted to competitive with myself that I wanted to prove that I could do it, right? I prove that I could do it, right? I prove that I could do it, right? I wanted to win the Golden Slam to show wanted to win the Golden Slam to show wanted to win the Golden Slam to show that I could do it, not prove it to any that I could do it, not prove it to any that I could do it, not prove it to any of you, right? And I think broadcasting of you, right? And I think broadcasting of you, right? And I think broadcasting is a great example and acting as well is a great example and acting as well is a great example and acting as well and anything in the mainstream. I and anything in the mainstream. I and anything in the mainstream. I probably want to prove to the industry probably want to prove to the industry probably want to prove to the industry that I can do it. But not just me, the that I can do it. But not just me, the that I can do it. But not just me, the next Dylan can do it and the Dylan after next Dylan can do it and the Dylan after next Dylan can do it and the Dylan after that and the Dylan after that. That's that and the Dylan after that. That's that and the Dylan after that. That's where I get that drive from. But when I where I get that drive from. But when I where I get that drive from. But when I would stuff up or you know we all stuff would stuff up or you know we all stuff would stuff up or you know we all stuff up, you know, we stuff up a lot. Um I up, you know, we stuff up a lot. Um I up, you know, we stuff up a lot. Um I kind of don't want to get another chance kind of don't want to get another chance kind of don't want to get another chance to prove that I can do it. I kind of to prove that I can do it. I kind of to prove that I can do it. I kind of actually lean into it, right? That's actually lean into it, right? That's actually lean into it, right? That's like my style of doing it, right? And like my style of doing it, right? And like my style of doing it, right? And cuz you you know the the the the saying cuz you you know the the the the saying cuz you you know the the the the saying the man or the woman in the arena, we the man or the woman in the arena, we the man or the woman in the arena, we are in the arena right there. We have are in the arena right there. We have are in the arena right there. We have the keys to broadcast people's stories the keys to broadcast people's stories the keys to broadcast people's stories to hundreds of millions of people around to hundreds of millions of people around to hundreds of millions of people around the world. If you told bullied Dylan the world. If you told bullied Dylan the world. If you told bullied Dylan that he had that, he'd be like, "Let's that he had that, he'd be like, "Let's that he had that, he'd be like, "Let's go, right? Let's have a crack." And I go, right? Let's have a crack." And I go, right? Let's have a crack." And I think, you know, I always remind myself think, you know, I always remind myself think, you know, I always remind myself and I think I work with my mindset and I think I work with my mindset and I think I work with my mindset coach, a guy called Ben Crow. Um we have coach, a guy called Ben Crow. Um we have coach, a guy called Ben Crow. Um we have this thing called courage mantras. this thing called courage mantras. this thing called courage mantras. Words that we would say to ourselves Words that we would say to ourselves Words that we would say to ourselves when we were had a moment of anxiety or when we were had a moment of anxiety or when we were had a moment of anxiety or nervousness on the court in broadcast nervousness on the court in broadcast nervousness on the court in broadcast whatever it is. And like you know whatever it is. And like you know whatever it is. And like you know actually he also works with Ashb who's a actually he also works with Ashb who's a actually he also works with Ashb who's a really good friends of mine. Uh hers was really good friends of mine. Uh hers was really good friends of mine. Uh hers was I decide I decide what happens here. No I decide I decide what happens here. No I decide I decide what happens here. No one else. Right. That was hers. Mine one else. Right. That was hers. Mine one else. Right. That was hers. Mine was, and I I won't swear, but I would go was, and I I won't swear, but I would go was, and I I won't swear, but I would go out on Rodver Arena, 20,000 people, 100 out on Rodver Arena, 20,000 people, 100 out on Rodver Arena, 20,000 people, 100 million people watching around the million people watching around the million people watching around the world, and I was just trying not to world, and I was just trying not to world, and I was just trying not to vomit. I was so nervous, right? Do you vomit. I was so nervous, right? Do you vomit. I was so nervous, right? Do you know what I would say to myself? How know what I would say to myself? How know what I would say to myself? How effing good is this? I would say it over effing good is this? I would say it over effing good is this? I would say it over and over again. How effing good is this? and over again. How effing good is this? and over again. How effing good is this? As loud as I could on the court. I got As loud as I could on the court. I got As loud as I could on the court. I got goosebumps saying it. I said at the goosebumps saying it. I said at the goosebumps saying it. I said at the Olympics when I was nervous before the Olympics when I was nervous before the Olympics when I was nervous before the first broadcast. Because if you were first broadcast. Because if you were first broadcast. Because if you were told young Dylan or for hopefully told young Dylan or for hopefully told young Dylan or for hopefully someone with disability watching someone someone with disability watching someone someone with disability watching someone like them on TV for the first time just like them on TV for the first time just like them on TV for the first time just being them, they would think how good is being them, they would think how good is being them, they would think how good is that? I say it over and over to myself that? I say it over and over to myself that? I say it over and over to myself on the I can see myself in the warm-up on the I can see myself in the warm-up on the I can see myself in the warm-up when I watch back a replay going how when I watch back a replay going how when I watch back a replay going how good is this? How good is this? How good good is this? How good is this? How good good is this? How good is this? How good is this? But it works, right? And that is this? But it works, right? And that is this? But it works, right? And that is a way to practice gratitude, right? is a way to practice gratitude, right? is a way to practice gratitude, right? In moments when you are having a bad day In moments when you are having a bad day In moments when you are having a bad day and I have bad days all the time. I try and I have bad days all the time. I try and I have bad days all the time. I try and find little things that I'm like, and find little things that I'm like, and find little things that I'm like, you know what? I'm so lucky to have my you know what? I'm so lucky to have my you know what? I'm so lucky to have my dog source. It could be as small as dog source. It could be as small as dog source. It could be as small as that. Or, you know, you and I in Milan that. Or, you know, you and I in Milan that. Or, you know, you and I in Milan host Olympics when it's freezing and host Olympics when it's freezing and host Olympics when it's freezing and it's hard and we're tired, we're like, it's hard and we're tired, we're like, it's hard and we're tired, we're like, "Oh my god, I'm actually broadcasting "Oh my god, I'm actually broadcasting "Oh my god, I'm actually broadcasting Olympic games right now." Like, that's Olympic games right now." Like, that's Olympic games right now." Like, that's pretty sick. And like even just saying pretty sick. And like even just saying pretty sick. And like even just saying it out loud to all of you as well. When it out loud to all of you as well. When it out loud to all of you as well. When you know a new system comes into work you know a new system comes into work you know a new system comes into work that you've got to try and learn about that you've got to try and learn about that you've got to try and learn about or something like that or you break up or something like that or you break up or something like that or you break up with your partner or whatever it is, we with your partner or whatever it is, we with your partner or whatever it is, we all go through these things, right? But all go through these things, right? But all go through these things, right? But I'm a big believer in this. It is not I'm a big believer in this. It is not I'm a big believer in this. It is not the events in life that dictates the the events in life that dictates the the events in life that dictates the life that you live. It's your decisions life that you live. It's your decisions life that you live. It's your decisions around the events that determines the around the events that determines the around the events that determines the path that you take. And I don't have path that you take. And I don't have path that you take. And I don't have control over my conditions, do I? But I control over my conditions, do I? But I control over my conditions, do I? But I do have control over my decisions and my do have control over my decisions and my do have control over my decisions and my mindset and how I view the events that mindset and how I view the events that mindset and how I view the events that happened to me and what my response is. happened to me and what my response is. happened to me and what my response is. Right? And once I figured that out, I Right? And once I figured that out, I Right? And once I figured that out, I realized that I had the control over my realized that I had the control over my realized that I had the control over my life, not society placing the control on life, not society placing the control on life, not society placing the control on me about what I can do. And um yeah, I I me about what I can do. And um yeah, I I me about what I can do. And um yeah, I I really practice that literally every day really practice that literally every day really practice that literally every day to be able to get out there and be the to be able to get out there and be the to be able to get out there and be the person that I want to be. person that I want to be. person that I want to be. >> Uh I love it. There is a QR code uh for >> Uh I love it. There is a QR code uh for >> Uh I love it. There is a QR code uh for your foundation as well. your foundation as well. your foundation as well. >> That's nice.

>> That's nice. >> That's nice. >> Give us a spiel. >> Give us a spiel. >> Give us a spiel. >> We directly invest in young people with >> We directly invest in young people with >> We directly invest in young people with disability around the world so they can disability around the world so they can disability around the world so they can get out and achieve their dreams. Uh we get out and achieve their dreams. Uh we get out and achieve their dreams. Uh we currently have 50 young people that we currently have 50 young people that we currently have 50 young people that we pay fully for them to go to university. pay fully for them to go to university. pay fully for them to go to university. Um we pay for young aspiring musicians, Um we pay for young aspiring musicians, Um we pay for young aspiring musicians, the the equipment and you know the DJ the the equipment and you know the DJ the the equipment and you know the DJ producing gear, whatever it is. Uh we producing gear, whatever it is. Uh we producing gear, whatever it is. Uh we had 13 athletes go to the Paris had 13 athletes go to the Paris had 13 athletes go to the Paris Parolympic Games. How cool is that? We Parolympic Games. How cool is that? We Parolympic Games. How cool is that? We won two gold, four silver, three bronze won two gold, four silver, three bronze won two gold, four silver, three bronze directly from the investment that we directly from the investment that we directly from the investment that we made into them. I was broadcasting it made into them. I was broadcasting it made into them. I was broadcasting it like crying like it was unbelievable. Um like crying like it was unbelievable. Um like crying like it was unbelievable. Um and equally we also run awareness and equally we also run awareness and equally we also run awareness campaigns around the world. We work with campaigns around the world. We work with campaigns around the world. We work with the biggest brands uh in the country to the biggest brands uh in the country to the biggest brands uh in the country to help put more people with disability in help put more people with disability in help put more people with disability in their advertisements. Uh we run a music their advertisements. Uh we run a music their advertisements. Uh we run a music festival called Ability Fest which is festival called Ability Fest which is festival called Ability Fest which is just like Coachella. We just make it just like Coachella. We just make it just like Coachella. We just make it accessible for people with disability. accessible for people with disability. accessible for people with disability. We ran it last week in Melbourne. We We ran it last week in Melbourne. We We ran it last week in Melbourne. We raised 450 grand right and we had people raised 450 grand right and we had people raised 450 grand right and we had people with disab we had panau people with disab we had panau people with disab we had panau people disabilities was unbelievable. I also disabilities was unbelievable. I also disabilities was unbelievable. I also went to Coachella a couple years ago went to Coachella a couple years ago went to Coachella a couple years ago with Dom and the head of Coachella was with Dom and the head of Coachella was with Dom and the head of Coachella was like ah you run ability fest. We copied like ah you run ability fest. We copied like ah you run ability fest. We copied what you guys do. I said, "Where's my what you guys do. I said, "Where's my what you guys do. I said, "Where's my tickets? What the hell?" Um, yeah. So, tickets? What the hell?" Um, yeah. So, tickets? What the hell?" Um, yeah. So, I, you know, it's tough times at the I, you know, it's tough times at the I, you know, it's tough times at the moment. If you're struggling, please moment. If you're struggling, please moment. If you're struggling, please don't have to donate, but it is going to don't have to donate, but it is going to don't have to donate, but it is going to a good home. And, um, as I said, I just a good home. And, um, as I said, I just a good home. And, um, as I said, I just want to keep using my platform to want to keep using my platform to want to keep using my platform to directly support as many people as I directly support as many people as I directly support as many people as I can. can. can. >> I love it. Well done to you on Before we >> I love it. Well done to you on Before we >> I love it. Well done to you on Before we wrap it up, I was going to ask you wrap it up, I was going to ask you wrap it up, I was going to ask you what's next for Dylan Orcot, but I'm what's next for Dylan Orcot, but I'm what's next for Dylan Orcot, but I'm judging by the trips overseas and some judging by the trips overseas and some judging by the trips overseas and some acting, you want an Oscar, not just a acting, you want an Oscar, not just a acting, you want an Oscar, not just a Loi. Is that what Loi. Is that what Loi. Is that what >> Yeah, I'd love an Oscar. Um, mate. Yeah,

>> Yeah, I'd love an Oscar. Um, mate. Yeah, >> Yeah, I'd love an Oscar. Um, mate. Yeah, you know, I really want to take my you know, I really want to take my you know, I really want to take my message to the world. message to the world. message to the world. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> Yep. >> That's what I want to do. We've I've >> That's what I want to do. We've I've >> That's what I want to do. We've I've been so grateful for the support in been so grateful for the support in been so grateful for the support in Australia. Australian of the year. What Australia. Australian of the year. What Australia. Australian of the year. What the hell? Like, I still can't believe the hell? Like, I still can't believe the hell? Like, I still can't believe that. And I think we've really put that. And I think we've really put that. And I think we've really put disability in the vernacular of the disability in the vernacular of the disability in the vernacular of the country, but I go to other places around country, but I go to other places around country, but I go to other places around the world. And um, you know, it's not as the world. And um, you know, it's not as the world. And um, you know, it's not as far advanced as we are here. and you far advanced as we are here. and you far advanced as we are here. and you know why can't there be broadcasters, know why can't there be broadcasters, know why can't there be broadcasters, actors, all these kinds of things in actors, all these kinds of things in actors, all these kinds of things in other parts of the world, the US, the other parts of the world, the US, the other parts of the world, the US, the UK, wherever it is. Um, I do a lot of UK, wherever it is. Um, I do a lot of UK, wherever it is. Um, I do a lot of motivational speaking. I'm off to Paris, motivational speaking. I'm off to Paris, motivational speaking. I'm off to Paris, uh, where am I going? Barcelona, London uh, where am I going? Barcelona, London uh, where am I going? Barcelona, London next week and all kinds of cool stuff. next week and all kinds of cool stuff. next week and all kinds of cool stuff. So, yeah, I'm very lucky, but most So, yeah, I'm very lucky, but most So, yeah, I'm very lucky, but most importantly, I just want to wake up importantly, I just want to wake up importantly, I just want to wake up every day and enjoy my life, man. And I every day and enjoy my life, man. And I every day and enjoy my life, man. And I really am doing that at the moment. I'm really am doing that at the moment. I'm really am doing that at the moment. I'm in a really good spot where I'm feeling in a really good spot where I'm feeling in a really good spot where I'm feeling creative and supported, and it's so creative and supported, and it's so creative and supported, and it's so important to be able to do that. And important to be able to do that. And important to be able to do that. And yeah, to be able to get up here and say, yeah, to be able to get up here and say, yeah, to be able to get up here and say, you know, everyone is why I get out of you know, everyone is why I get out of you know, everyone is why I get out of bed and I'm really grateful to be here. bed and I'm really grateful to be here. bed and I'm really grateful to be here. >> He's a special sort of human. Ladies and >> He's a special sort of human. Ladies and >> He's a special sort of human. Ladies and gentlemen, thanks for having us today. gentlemen, thanks for having us today. gentlemen, thanks for having us today. We appreciate it. We appreciate it. We appreciate it. [applause]