>> So many many public companies or >> So many many public companies or investors in general are very investors in general are very investors in general are very financially oriented, meaning they come financially oriented, meaning they come financially oriented, meaning they come with they start with the Excel file, how with they start with the Excel file, how with they start with the Excel file, how much they make, what's going to be the much they make, what's going to be the much they make, what's going to be the multiples and so on and so forth. We try multiples and so on and so forth. We try multiples and so on and so forth. We try to take a more strategic view to take a more strategic view to take a more strategic view understanding uh more than that. It's understanding uh more than that. It's understanding uh more than that. It's not just how the numbers are going to not just how the numbers are going to not just how the numbers are going to shift. It's also a lot about the people, shift. It's also a lot about the people, shift. It's also a lot about the people, a lot about the interconnectivity with a lot about the interconnectivity with a lot about the interconnectivity with other holding companies, um, with the other holding companies, um, with the other holding companies, um, with the market, with our competitors. Uh, again, market, with our competitors. Uh, again, market, with our competitors. Uh, again, a lot of people are today are investing a lot of people are today are investing a lot of people are today are investing in defense. We try to really look at the in defense. We try to really look at the in defense. We try to really look at the at the actual underlying product that is at the actual underlying product that is at the actual underlying product that is going to be part of a bigger picture, going to be part of a bigger picture, going to be part of a bigger picture, not just the Excel file. Again, I think not just the Excel file. Again, I think not just the Excel file. Again, I think a lot of good companies are there doing a lot of good companies are there doing a lot of good companies are there doing it. We put a lot of uh a lot of uh uh